Remember that the Charley birds was started to initiate a slower pace that everyone capable of Bt A could handle. Please remember that, as lately, stronger riders coming on the ride,  are breaking up the pace line or not riding the pace line at all. It makes it hard for the ride  leaders who try to keep tabs on everyone. Please  go with the faster group if your  goal does not match that of the Charley birds original premise. This is a slower ride . Thanks,