If you don't what HRT means you are TOO YOUNG to be on this ride. Like Pete, I don't want the ride 8o miles. I also don't want Pete pulverizing me for 30 miles. If you find by mid Sunday afternoon putting your other half in the wood chipper seems like a good idea, come ride insead. Get some nice endorphins going, smeel the lilacs, sneeze and go home feeling better. This will be an honest B pace (honestly-I'm riding a hybrid) so if you would like to try out a B ride, join me at the SE end (behind Wendy's) of the Waldbaums lot in Center Moriches.